CHICKEN OR EGG?

what came first? bitches.

The egg came first. I don't believe in creationism, so my beliefs lie in the theory of evolution. Therefore, according to evolutionary hypotheses, a fully developed organism cannot appear out of thin air. That means that the egg of the modern chicken, Gallus gallus domesticus, appeared before the adult bird itself.

Although, the species didn't appear as it is overnight; evolution consists of gradual genetic mutations in the offspring of a population.

I couldn't have said it better myself, Admin.

Bitch.

Oh, the infamous causality dilemma. Which came first: the chicken or the egg? I'd like to believe there is a god, but there's strong evidence against his existence. There have been remnants of former, extinct species, and the ancestors of current organisms. If evolution is true, the chicken didn't come out of nowhere, right? It had to evolve from a eukaryote, then a fish, then blah blah blah, until it finally reached its current state in the form of an egg. It had to hatch before it could develop into a chicken, right?

Bitch.

Unless you can go back in time and see for yourselves what exactly happened, you can't really 'prove' anything.

Bitch, lol.

I think this question's been done too much, as nobody has ever come up with an indisputable response. Why? It's impossible to explain with "faith", which proves nothing, but science is still too weak to give conclusive evidence for evolution.

Hi, it is a very old and interesting Question.
Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

According to the Creator of chickens, and the author of the Record of their origins, chickens came first. It was on the Fifth Day of Creation Week that He created "every winged fowl after [their] kind" (Genesis 1:21) complete with the DNA to reproduce that kind. Then He "blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply" (v.22) using that DNA. For the chickens this meant lay chicken eggs. Problem solved.

Chickens are amazingly complex creatures, with their hollow bones, intricate feathers, four-chambered heart, continuous air intake, high metabolism, complex brain, good hearing, superb color vision, etc. Modern domestic chickens aren't very good flyers, having been bred to stay home, but neither were the recently wild forefathers of chickens from which they were bred. Everything about a chicken suggests careful design.

Even a chicken's egg is well designed. The embryo nestles safely inside, surrounded and cushioned by amniotic fluid and nourished by the yolk. Metabolic wastes are insulated from the rest, while oxygen and carbon dioxide are exchanged across the hard but porous shell.


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sharetips333 wrote:

Chickens are amazingly complex creatures, with their hollow bones, intricate feathers, four-chambered heart, continuous air intake, high metabolism, complex brain, good hearing, superb color vision, etc. Modern domestic chickens aren't very good flyers, having been bred to stay home, but neither were the recently wild forefathers of chickens from which they were bred. Everything about a chicken suggests careful design.

For now, this is all I will say: Could the complexity of the chicken be the result of millions of years of gradual improvement?

Something tells me that guy was a one-post user... I guess we'll just leave squashbanana's question open, as I have no idea how to respond myself. I really haven't put much though into this debate over God.

I hope he comes back; I really want to continue this discussion with him. He seems to have confidence in what he's taking about.

I agree with you, squashbanana. I really do hope he returns. The debate you two could have held had great potential. It's too bad when people say something on a forum and never come back. What a disappointment! xD

Although, for now, I do have hope that he may resume this discussion — it hasn't been that long. It's just that a lot of people on the site haven't returned to add to their arguments.